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Sven Udo
18.05.2007, 03:09
Folgende Mail habe ich gestern erhalten.

Dessen Inhalt IMO Mugumerkmale enthällt.
Aber wiederrum auch ehrlich klingt.
Oder es ist eine besondere (neue) Masche, mit so viel Details, den Kontakt zu beginnen.

Frage an die Gemeinde, was sagt ihr dazu?
Aus Sicherheitsgründen habe ich persönliche Daten verfremdet.
Datum: Thu, 17 May 2007 xx:xx:xx -0700 (PDT)
Von: "yemi nelson"
Betreff: Hello .....
An: ***@***

Hello ***,

How are you doing and hope you are having a nice time.Its really nice reading from you on *** and its my pleasure to reply to your message without hesitation....I could read from your words in the message you sent to me that you should be a caring and understanding man and it would be a pleasure meeting eachother in the nearest future if all works good between us.

Thanks for the email.....My heart searches for a real man who will show me some love tenderly,carefully all in a long term relationship which will hopefully lead to spending the rest of our lives together.
Kindly take your time to read carefully and understand all about me....thanks.

About My self.
My full name is Yemi Nelosn,born and raised in Belgium,Dad is also from Belgium and Mum a Nigerian.My parents actually had a divorce when i was 15yrs old and the court's verdict was that i'll be staying with Mum....Mum relocated back to her country Nigeria after the divorce and brought me along with her,so i'm presently working in a shopping mall or you may call it a supermarket, and living in Lagos,Nigeria with my Mum...though i'm still a confirmed citizen of Belgium but presently living in Nigeria with Mum.

About my last relationship.
Moreover,my Ex was an american and i met him when we were both working together here in a textile company,he showed his interest and we started up from there.We came so close,had better times.......He got through with the project in the textile company and was time for him to get back to states,he pleaded to me if i would come and meet him in States,he went on to show his sincerity to my Mum and she agreed.....after some weeks which he had left for united states,i quitted my job,gathered some funds and travelled to meet him in Florida and we lived together in this address: 3*** kelsey lane, saint cloud,Florida,3***.

We had dreams and we were working towards a better future.
After close to a month that we have stayed together,he came in and told me that he was his attorney's place and he'll have to reconcille with his Ex....this he never revealed to me even when i asked him if he was formerly engaged,all he saID: [ID filtered]
He went on offering me one of his close friend if i would be interested but that i would never do,its so ridiculous and sad,all i had to do was to get back to Mum in Nigeria and start all over again,i wasted my time,care,affection,feelings,honesty,dedications and mostly loveand this sucks alot..I really couldnt bear the pains and all effort wasted,i was really depressed and thinking of how to start all over again,its really not easy.I'm kind of scared now to date again but i hope and pray i meet the right person in the time soon....I never wish to bore you with my past predicament but i think before i start anything with any man now i just have to reveal this to him in all honesty.

I am a cool,cute and they say bedroom eyes very sweet,kind,sensitive to a degree,spontanous,caring,giving,romantic,and love to be close and cuddling with the right man.I love to show and share my feeling in private to my man,and want a man to treat me with the same respect showing,sharing and giving himself to me in everyway.Like my mom use to say and i quote.... ''real and true'' love is rare and scarce like DIAMONDS,but ''just love'' is found everywhere like sands and stones...
My dream is to meet a Man who is committed,and will allow me to treat him as my King.

Tell me about your last relationship, have you got kids?I hope to hear from you soon and hopefully i would like for you to send me a pic in your reply.
The reason I have this dream is simple,i know that if I do everything I can to make my Man the happiest Man on earth the love he will give back to me,will be greater than any treasure I could ever find.I am a Woman who holds the belief that the only fortune in the world for any Woman,is the gift of love from a Man.
What i do for fun:I like to take a long beach walk,have a romantic dinner,watch movies[go to cinemas and operas],(adventure) and alots more love swiming too. Love to play with pets,like cats,dogs and birds.My favourite colour is Pink.Like to listen to musics like hip-hop,R & B.... This is all me from my honest heart and do hope to read back from you.
I attached my pictures and i do hope you like them...i'll like to view yours aswell...

Take care and have a nice day.
Yemi Nelson

Foto 1: http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9618/justmeea9.jpg
Foto 1: http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9634/yemiof2.jpg
[Nur Links zu den Fotos, damit sie nicht für Unregistrierte zu sehen sind.]PS: Beim googeln habe ich keine relevanten Daten gefunden.
Weder beim Namen noch über die IP.

Goofy
18.05.2007, 11:01
Die scheint für nigerianische Verhältnisse luxuriös zu wohnen. Als Angestellte einer nigerianischen Shopping-Mall... ein Haus mit Atrium-Garten...
Ich vermute mal, dass eine Frau sich eher nicht selbst mit dem Attribut "andere sagen, ich hätte Schlafzimmeraugen" beschreiben würde. Zumindest nicht in einer der allerersten Mails.
Wenn die Vita echt wäre, würde sie als belgische Staatsangehörige viel wahrscheinlicher nach Belgien gehen, oder sie wäre eher in den USA geblieben. Was nicht heissen soll, dass die Geschichte nicht stimmen könnte. Aber aus dem Bauch heraus sieht das für mich eher nach einem Fake aus - allerdings nach einem sehr geschickten.

Sven Udo
18.05.2007, 18:17
Ja, Goofy deine Argumente sind schlüssig.
Ich werde mich mal ganz vorsichtig "rantasten".
Mal sehen, wie sie reagiert.

Wobei ich in ca. 4 Wochen, wieder meine jährliche Dienstreise http://smilies.zx6r.info/ja_nein/zwinkern.gif antrete.
Und bis dahin, keinen große Story entwickeln kann.
Es sei denn, sie wartet, bis ich wieder da bin...http://www.antispam-ev.de/forum-data/smilies/HPM/clown.gif

Coreolis
19.05.2007, 00:07
Mein Senf dazu:
Die Bilder sehen für mich aus, als wären sie in einem Hotel oder ähnlichem gemacht (siehe die ganzen Schilder für die Räumlichkeiten, das im Garten könnte No-Smoking sein). Wer hat sowas zu Hause?

Ob Mugu mit finanziellen Interessen oder nicht, ein Fake scheint es dennoch zu sein.
Ich als Frau war auch mal auf Flirtbörsen unterwegs. Keinem erzähle ich von vornherein meine Lebensgeschichte inklusive Adresse.
Und außerdem wundert mich immer wieder, dass Nigerianer angeblich so sehr an ihrer Heimat hängen, dass sie von Belgien oder den USA freiwillig zurückkehren. Wenn sie schon im Westen sind, werden sie sicherlich auch da bleiben.

Aus Frauensicht also: Fake!
Viel Spaß und halt uns auf dem Laufenden. :D

Sven Udo
20.05.2007, 02:54
Meine fast Vermutung war richtig.
Und auch Goofy sowie Coreolis bringen es auf den Punkt.

Was mir neu scheint, ist die Art des Scripts.
Welches durch seine Ausfühlichkeit auffällt.
Und das es ein - leicht - abwandelbares Script ist, sieht man an der zweiten Mail.

Die einem anderen Profil zu Grunde liegt. Nun wäre nur die Frage,
sind es mehrere, die sich untereinander (kaum) austauschen.
Oder Deppen, die nicht merken das sie mit zwei versch.
Profilen, an ein und dieselbe Person schreiben - mich.

Heute füge ich mal beide Profile bei.
Profil EINS ist "yemi nelson" ist "mildnelson"
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Und hier die zweite Mail, die gesten kam:
Datum: Sat, 19 May 2007 xx:xx:xx -0700 (PDT)
Von: "Tope Taylor"
Betreff: Would be nice to know you better...................

Hello ***,
How are you doing, thanks for the mail, i really appreciate that alot. I am looking for real love, a long term relationship and hopefully leads to marriage. I actually saw your profile.........(***) and dID: [ID filtered]
About myself.
To start with, am Tope Taylor. My Dad was from Belgium, My Mum is from Nigeria, am the only child of my parents. I was born on 11th feb 1977 in Belgium. I was 3yr old when my mother had a divorce with my father and she had to relocate back to Nigeria, she took me along with her to Nigeria after her divorce, my Mum raised me, I am currently Living and Working here in Nigeria. I thank God for everything.
I'm the fittest I've ever been in my life, right now, so don't wait until I'm out of shape to get in touch. I'm a down-to-earth girl looking for a passionate guy to warm my heart.
I'm not greedy or pretentious, I know when I have enough. I like people who can laugh at themselves, people who go with the flow and contribute jokes instead of sitting back and being sarcastic about everything. It's easy to do that.
I respect people who respect me. I'm a kind person, but kindness is a two-way street. If I find I'm with a taker and not a giver, I'm out of there. I like who I am and you will too if you have an open mind and an open heart. If I feel we're on the same wavelength, I'll open up to you like a flower. I'm looking for someone who will help me to be the best person I can be. Loyalty is the hardest thing to find and that's why I treasure it when I find it.traits I find attractive; Kindness. Patience. Playfulness. Vulnerability. If you're a good cook, that's a good mark in your favour.
Its really my pleasure to have heard from you, and i really hope to get to know you Much more better and have the opportunity to meet each other in person some day, if time permites,
Moreover, in my last relationship, i relocated to my fiancy in the United states, I quited my job and made all the neccessary arrangement and moved to him in the US. i stayed in 1xxx GREENFIELD ROAD #123 DETROIT, MICHIGAN 48235 USA.

with him, and surdenly, his Ex came back to his life, and i was asked to leave, moreover he actually wanted to hook me up with his friend, if i would like to have a date with his friend, thats so disgusting and its so sucks, so i had to leave back for Nigeria to stay with my Mum to start all over again.
I really couldnt bear the pains and all effort wasted, i was really depressed and thinking of how to start all over again, its really not easy. I am kinda scared now to date again but i hope and pray i meet the right person this time arround.
I am a cute and they say bedroom eyes very sweet,kind, sensitive to a degree, spontanous, caring, giving, romantic, and love to be close and cuddling with the right man. i love to show and share my feeling in private to my man, and want a man to treat me with the same respect showing a sharing and giving himself to me in everyway.
My dream is to meet a Man who who is committed, and will allow me to treat him as my “King”. The reason I have this dream is simple…I know that if I do everything I can to make my Man the happiest Man on earth, the love he will give back to me, will be greater than any treasure I could ever find. I am a Woman who holds the belief that the only “true fortune” in the world for any Woman, is the gift of love from a Man.
What i do for fun,I like to take a long beach walk, have a romantic dinner, watch movies, (adventure) and alots more love swiming too LOL. Love to play with pets, like cats, dogs and birds. I like Flowers and my kind of flower is Roses. My favourite colour is Pupple. like to listen to musics like hip-hop, R & B. I really hope to hear back from you soonest, take care and have a nice day.
Sincerely Yours,
Tope.

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Wuschel_MUC
20.05.2007, 09:40
Lass' mich mal spekulieren:

einer deiner Mugus hat gespannt, dass du dich als Scambaiter betätigst und würde dich gerne persönlich vermöbeln. Also versucht er, dich mit Hilfe einer Frau zu identifizieren.

Nachdem du auf die kaffeebraune Schönheit nicht angemessen reagiert hast, probiert er es mit dem blonden Gift.

Zum ersten Date wären zwei schwarze Möbelpacker vom Kaliber "zwei Meter, zwei Zentner" gekommen.

Wuschel

Goofy
20.05.2007, 12:26
Konnte ja auch gar nicht anders sein, als dass das mal wieder Mugus sind.
Beide von Sven Udo überlegten Optionen sind möglich: entweder arbeiten mehrere Mugus mit demselben Skript, oder es ist ein und derselbe, der vor lauter Scam keinen Überblick mehr hat, wen er schon alles in der Mangel hat.

Seit wann liegt übrigens Luxemburg in Belgien? :o Baclain ist eine Stadt in Wallonien.

Dass es persönlich gegen S.U. gerichtet ist, glaube ich eher nicht. Soviel Mühe machen sich die Mugus wohl doch nicht. Allenfalls würde er es einmal versuchen, aber nicht nochmal mit einem anderen Skript.

Die Häufung von "Belgien" in den Legenden ist allerdings interessant.

Sven Udo
22.05.2007, 05:05
...diemal aus "Berlin". Meine Stadt, dort bin ich Hotelbesitzer.
Und Aufsichtsratsmitglied in einer großen bekannten Bank :rolleyes:.

Da werde ich mal antworten, auf Deutsch versteht sich...

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Datum: Mon, 21 May 2007 xx:xx:xx +0400
Von: "Anna_Ar"
Betreff: Hello

Hi ***! Have good day. I am glad, that you have answered my message.
From structures which have been recommended to me in service of
acquaintances - yours The structure was for me the most interesting. I
hope, that we can To communicate and we shall learn more well each
other. I shall tell briefly about myself. My name Anastasia. My age 27
. I have finished college, and I have job in hospital. I have
addressed in service of acquaintances because here I have difficulty
with Search of the good person. As I am very lonely and I have greater
need for having a number of the reliable and gentle person. I send you
one of my photos. If in it will be nice for you , That inform me. I
shall be glad to continue our acquaintance, therefore That, as I
already informed, you have caused sincere interest in me. Please ask
questions, I shall be glad to tell about myself. I so have to you the
request! Please send some pictures. I shall wait for your messages.

Your friend Anastasia.

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